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Connie Graham (user 367) - Comments by Date

Concur that the plan seems to be more about the process of engagement and measurement of engagement. This is analogous to the series of wine and cheese meetings that the developers had about Potomac Yard, and then the developers did what they wanted to anyway. Did they engage with the public? Yes, in every sense of the word, but the outcome was as if they had never met with the public. The International Association for Public Participation (IAPE) Spectrum of Public Participation is at http://www.dpcd.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/43183/Engagement_Guide.pdf, It show five levels of engagement: Inform, Consult, Involve, Collaborate, and Empower.
Under "Inform", the promise to the public is "we will keep you informed." For "Consult," the promise to the public is "We will keep you informed, listen to and
acknowledge concerns and aspirations, and provide feedback on how public input influenced
the decision." For "Involve" the promise to the public is "We will work with you to ensure that your concerns and aspirations are directly reflected in the
alternatives developed and provide feedback on how public input
influenced the decision." For "collaborate," the promise to the public is "We will look to you for advice and innovation in
formulating solutions and incorporate your advice and recommendations into the decisions to the maximum extent possible." The most responsive option on the spectrum of engagement is "empower" and the promise to the public is "We will implement what you decide." My best sense of past and current engagement practices in Alexandria is that they operate at "Inform," while they say they will "consult." There is no guarantee that apparent public opinion (as evidenced by many speakers and filling the City Hall Chambers)is a reflection of the wishes and needs of constituents. I remember one packed City Hall meeting about the location of the Carpenter's Shelter where the majority of supporters were non-resident "ringer" do-gooders that used a •Argumentum ad Consequentiam " logic about supporting the shelter's exsistence, when the real issue was the location of the shelter, which was opposed by the residents due to concerns about drugs and the location near a park.

Connie Graham (367) | User | July 30, 2013 - 4:09 PM | Civic Engagement Handbook Comment Board

Connie Graham (user 367) - Comments by Board

Civic Engagement Handbook Comment Board

Concur that the plan seems to be more about the process of engagement and measurement of engagement. This is analogous to the series of wine and cheese meetings that the developers had about Potomac Yard, and then the developers did what they wanted to anyway. Did they engage with the public? Yes, in every sense of the word, but the outcome was as if they had never met with the public. The International Association for Public Participation (IAPE) Spectrum of Public Participation is at http://www.dpcd.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/43183/Engagement_Guide.pdf, It show five levels of engagement: Inform, Consult, Involve, Collaborate, and Empower.
Under "Inform", the promise to the public is "we will keep you informed." For "Consult," the promise to the public is "We will keep you informed, listen to and
acknowledge concerns and aspirations, and provide feedback on how public input influenced
the decision." For "Involve" the promise to the public is "We will work with you to ensure that your concerns and aspirations are directly reflected in the
alternatives developed and provide feedback on how public input
influenced the decision." For "collaborate," the promise to the public is "We will look to you for advice and innovation in
formulating solutions and incorporate your advice and recommendations into the decisions to the maximum extent possible." The most responsive option on the spectrum of engagement is "empower" and the promise to the public is "We will implement what you decide." My best sense of past and current engagement practices in Alexandria is that they operate at "Inform," while they say they will "consult." There is no guarantee that apparent public opinion (as evidenced by many speakers and filling the City Hall Chambers)is a reflection of the wishes and needs of constituents. I remember one packed City Hall meeting about the location of the Carpenter's Shelter where the majority of supporters were non-resident "ringer" do-gooders that used a •Argumentum ad Consequentiam " logic about supporting the shelter's exsistence, when the real issue was the location of the shelter, which was opposed by the residents due to concerns about drugs and the location near a park.

Connie Graham (367) | User | July 30, 2013 - 4:09 PM